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TacoBell
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 266
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: FUD |
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| DUCK of DEATH wrote: | | HighTech4US wrote: | | Tvar' wrote: | Charlie -
GPUs are turning into general purpose manycore processors - which is why Intel has to make Larrabee. Nvidia understands this well, your FUD to the contrary. They're not going to break forward compatibility with CUDA and PTX.
I'm actually a little surprised at your unfounded FUD. Too bad. |
Why the surpise?
Charlie HATES nVidia and will post continuous FUD on anything they do or produce. Seems like nVidia in the past slighted Charlie and now he just acts like a spoiled child. |
Nvidia aren't owned by AMD, so it is no surprise. |
I think the saying ins Nvidia is owning AMD. Anand said the 4850 card will go agains the 9800 card with a ca. $200 price point. So AMD's next gen video part is being forced to price compete with an mild refresh of a 20 month old design.
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Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 531
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I propose that people go for full disclosure when they post here. If you work for X when the topic is X and you post here, please disclose it, or avoid to post agresive posting without putting your name behind it.(or a speudo that people understand)
I remind everybody that this web site has a public log... hummm hummm
and for the respect of intelligence, if you post anomymous with a computer, make sure your name is not the computer name .....
The list ...
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Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 531
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Charlie, that's funny how fast some people stopped posting personal attack, isn't it?
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Groo
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| who? wrote: | Charlie, that's funny how fast some people stopped posting personal attack, isn't it?
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Most forum posters are like roaches, shine lite on them and they run under something greasy. How may people here have the guts to publicly post their name, job, email, address, phone etc?
Me, I have been posting my name online since the late 70s on BBSs, on the net since the 80s.
-Charlie
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Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 531
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I guess, they are ordering a new laptop to their IT department, and will start posting very soon again with a PC without their names in the PC name ...
Let's give them some more advise ... If you post from home, be aware that your ISP since 2006 is very likely to identify you via "whois", Comcast and other USA isps follow the recommandation of the USA gov and clearly establish your ID ... it takes 5 min. If you are in E.U, you are safe, it will only point back to your city ... But your ISP keep the log ... and some of them let the log be public.
Most of web browser will give away your ISP, your IP, your machine name, and you MAc address ... your windows name, your domain, even the open source one ... There are cure for it, but well, look for it.
so, if you plan to do a "cover operation", please hire some brain power ... :)
Or you can be smart ... and you disclose who you are ...
Stand up!
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P4man
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 522
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Whats up with all this nonsense? No one but the administrators of this site can identify the IP of the poster. And the IP will in most cases, not give you much more than the ISP. Where I live, you'd need a court order to get that IP adress translated into an identity. And even then, anyone with a half a brain can setup Tor or similar if they would want to hide that.
As for you pledge for full disclosure, I don't see why that would be needed as long as the posts stand by themselves and or not trolling or smears, which don't belong on this forum anyhow. But since you seem to think its very important, why don't give the right example by putting your name, employer and function in your sig ? Its not because I and a few regulars know who you are, that everyone does. (Not that reading your posts would leave much doubt about your employer mind you ;) )
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thibs
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 119
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Mmmm I know his first name and employer but AFAIK (and this is no attack of any sort) I haven't seen any last name or official employer statement which makes him pretty disposable (if that would be possible). :cry:
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new_username
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, this is rediculous. I've finally signed up for this "temporary" aces' replacement to respond to this.
I used my real name at Aces for the username from about 1998 ish through 2005 or so. I stopped doing so when a lawyer from a big tech company threatened me. The info I put up was something I overheard at a party near Silicon Valley, and frankly, not that interesting. But this particular company has an image to uphold with its true believers, and pays a lot of lawyers. And that information was counter to their image. I've since heard through the grapevine that they are notorious for suing people big and small. I didn't cave and tell them who I heard it from (and saved that person their job, probably).
So as for your disclosure BS -- I've never had anything to hide behind, but am not going to leave myself exposed for no good reason. If I post some information that can't stand on its own and NEEDS to be supported by information about myself or the context, I may provide that. If I post information that may attract attention, I'm not going to reveal my sources.
But most good information stands on its own, regardless of source.
In general, a well written opinion stands on its own -- as an opinion.
An analytical insight and logical discussion ALWAYS stands on its own and needs not an ounce of information about who the person is that posted it.
Its only the opinions or statements that rely on the author's "position" or unique access to knowledge that need not be anonymous. Or those that are based on claims that can't be checked via other sources. But in all these cases, the very fact that the author's identity matters makes the information weaker and suspect.
If you can't see the difference between the sort of statements that an anonymous source is as valid as a named one and those that gain weight when the source is known, you probably shouldn't debate on this site.
The latter type are tricky and often propaganda. If a statement NEEDS to gain validity from the context of the author, it is automatically suspect. One of the most powerful ways of influencing great numbers of people is to gain their trust and then use your position of trust to present claims that are false, distorted, or extremely incomplete. The same statements would be ignored or approached with skepticism if presented by a stranger.
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Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 531
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| P4man wrote: | Whats up with all this nonsense? No one but the administrators of this site can identify the IP of the poster. And the IP will in most cases, not give you much more than the ISP. Where I live, you'd need a court order to get that IP adress translated into an identity. And even then, anyone with a half a brain can setup Tor or similar if they would want to hide that.
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check freeforums.org logs ... lol, especially the one they expose to count their hits by 3rd party ...
I am not going to help you more than that, OB-1
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| new_username wrote: | Ok, this is rediculous. I've finally signed up for this "temporary" aces' replacement to respond to this.
I used my real name at Aces for the username from about 1998 ish through 2005 or so. I stopped doing so when a lawyer from a big tech company threatened me. The info I put up was something I overheard at a party near Silicon Valley, and frankly, not that interesting. But this particular company has an image to uphold with its true believers, and pays a lot of lawyers. And that information was counter to their image. I've since heard through the grapevine that they are notorious for suing people big and small. I didn't cave and tell them who I heard it from (and saved that person their job, probably).
So as for your disclosure BS -- I've never had anything to hide behind, but am not going to leave myself exposed for no good reason. If I post some information that can't stand on its own and NEEDS to be supported by information about myself or the context, I may provide that. If I post information that may attract attention, I'm not going to reveal my sources.
But most good information stands on its own, regardless of source.
In general, a well written opinion stands on its own -- as an opinion.
An analytical insight and logical discussion ALWAYS stands on its own and needs not an ounce of information about who the person is that posted it.
Its only the opinions or statements that rely on the author's "position" or unique access to knowledge that need not be anonymous. Or those that are based on claims that can't be checked via other sources. But in all these cases, the very fact that the author's identity matters makes the information weaker and suspect.
If you can't see the difference between the sort of statements that an anonymous source is as valid as a named one and those that gain weight when the source is known, you probably shouldn't debate on this site.
The latter type are tricky and often propaganda. If a statement NEEDS to gain validity from the context of the author, it is automatically suspect. One of the most powerful ways of influencing great numbers of people is to gain their trust and then use your position of trust to present claims that are false, distorted, or extremely incomplete. The same statements would be ignored or approached with skepticism if presented by a stranger. |
well, I respect your opinion, but when somebody post agreesive after an article was published about his company and try to touch the credibility of a Journalist without identifying himself, that is a different story, no? Usually, you call that Troll :)
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P4man
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 522
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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check freeforums.org logs ... lol, especially the one they expose to count their hits by 3rd party ...
I am not going to help you more than that, OB-1
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You don't have to "help" me as I have admin privileges on this forum. But if there is a security issue allowing anyone to gather IP addresses, you better report it. Lets see if its true though, as I have my doubts, what is my IP ? OS? Browser ? Feel free to PM me or even post it here it as none of it is secret.
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HighTech4US
Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting article on nVidia's CUDA on Toms Hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-cuda-gpu,1954.html
Quote from articles conclusion:
So, CUDA is not a gimmick intended for researchers who want to cajole their university into buying them a GeForce. CUDA is genuinely usable by any programmer who knows C, provided he or she is ready to make a small investment of time and effort to adapt to this new programming paradigm. That effort won’t be wasted provided your algorithms lend themselves to parallelization. We should also tip our hat to Nvidia for providing ample, quality documentation to answer all the questions of beginning programmers.
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foo
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 124
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| P4man wrote: | | who? wrote: |
check freeforums.org logs ... lol, especially the one they expose to count their hits by 3rd party ...
I am not going to help you more than that, OB-1
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You don't have to "help" me as I have admin privileges on this forum. But if there is a security issue allowing anyone to gather IP addresses, you better report it. Lets see if its true though, as I have my doubts, what is my IP ? OS? Browser ? Feel free to PM me or even post it here it as none of it is secret. |
dont mind "who" he is either seriously confused or trying to get under someone's skin..
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Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 531
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| HighTech4US wrote: | Interesting article on nVidia's CUDA on Toms Hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-cuda-gpu,1954.html
Quote from articles conclusion:
So, CUDA is not a gimmick intended for researchers who want to cajole their university into buying them a GeForce. CUDA is genuinely usable by any programmer who knows C, provided he or she is ready to make a small investment of time and effort to adapt to this new programming paradigm. That effort won’t be wasted provided your algorithms lend themselves to parallelization. We should also tip our hat to Nvidia for providing ample, quality documentation to answer all the questions of beginning programmers. |
Try to use their CUDA H264 encoders, especially when you try to do SD video at less than 1.5Mbps, and have fun with the mosaic ...
no no, it is not a filter special effect ...
DivX goes down to 700kbps without any issue, no mosaic ...
This encoder is good when you don t compress ... the point of video compression is to compress, no?
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JoeP
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Tom's hardware wrote: |
So, CUDA is not a gimmick intended for researchers who want to cajole their university into buying them a GeForce. CUDA is genuinely usable by any programmer who knows C, provided he or she is ready to make a small investment of time and effort to adapt to this new programming paradigm. That effort won’t be wasted provided your algorithms lend themselves to parallelization. We should also tip our hat to Nvidia for providing ample, quality documentation to answer all the questions of beginning programmers. |
I'll believe this when something is made of it. NVidia can regurgitate the same pro-CUDA message all it wants, but I want to see it being used.
I've talked with two professors from different universities who have grad students who know C and are trying to work with CUDA. By far, it has been the hardest "paradigm" to learn to work with. You need to create a new algorithm and a new mapping for your problem at the same time. And you need to know the hardware, too.
If there's anything promising in GPGPU, it's Apple's OpenCL.
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and after looking that up, it's still about a year away, AND it looks like it's only for OS X.
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