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Phenom Tri-cores launching in March 08 @ 2.3 & 2.5GHz / 89W
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andikleen



Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this would mean that these CPUs would also have L3 cache disabled.


The #298 workaround does not require disabling the L3 cache, just
disabling caching of page tables outside the TLBs to prevent them
from being incorrectly updated in the L3. But all non page table
data can be still cached there.
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jack



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First review of tri cores: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-x3-8750.html
This is a very good review, since it also includes dual core scores from both AMD and Intel.

It's not surprising that tri-cores don't make much sense at current performance and price levels. I guess AMD has to do something with defective Barcelona cores...

Pricing:
AMD Phenom X4 9750 (2.4GHz) – $215
AMD Phenom X3 8750 (2.4GHz) – $195
AMD Phenom X3 8650 (2.3GHz) – $165
AMD Phenom X3 8450 (2.1GHz) – $145

Dropping one core at 2.4GHz saves a whopping $20!

Overall performance is very poor. In gaming benchmarks, all new tri-cores lose often even to K8 based dual core, and are very far behind E8400 dual core Wolfdale. Even in multithreaded benchmarks like x264 encoding, Cinebench or Maya, fastest tri-core Phenom X3 8750 is slower than dual core E8400, while Phenom X3 8450 is slower than Athlon64 X2 6400+.

Overclockability of X3 8750 was decent: 2.4GHz->3.1GHz, but then again E8400 also overclocks very well and has significantly lower power consumption with much higher performance.
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jack



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting power consumption numbers from Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3293&p=9

2.4GHz tri core Phenom consumes significantly more power than 2.4GHz 65nm Core2 Quad...
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tomker



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, fuse off a core to get TDP down enough to raise clock speed, I get it.

You could also fuse off a core if it ran slower than the other 3...

Hmm, it would be fun to figure out which core/cores were the fastest and have the OS schedule processes and dynamically adjust clock speed accordingly. :)
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