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Interesting quote about Sir Dearlove's report (around 3:00):
"The president has decided the war is inevitable to remove Saddam Hussein for regime change, the war will be justified by the conjunction of terrorism and weapons of mass destruction ... but the intelligence and facts are BEING FIXED around the policy"
Also very interesting part (around 4:30) about Brits - getting a more sober briefing from Colin Powell, thus concluding the evidence they're working with is very thin - proposing to intentionally bully the Saddam regime with extremely intrusive inspection ultimatums that they expect would surely be rejected, giving them better ammo to justify the invasion politically since "regime change" from a legal standpoint is a catastrophe. Cheney was very opposed to UN inspectors going back in, ridiculing the process by saying it would "give us a false sense of security" ... anyway, to get the Brits to commit, Bush was persuaded to let this happen...
To their surprise Saddam ACCEPTED these extremely intrusive inspections. The Bush regime was thus forced later on to BLATANTLY LIE (around 9:00) and say Saddam actually was not cooperating fully to save face, and the lie was hammered down on the media in preparation for this invasion. The major media outlets amazingly never called Bush on that lie, they went along with it all the way to 2007 according to the clip.
Carl Levitz complaining to George Tenet, head of CIA, that they're not finding anything (around 6:30) was pretty funny.
The U2 airplane scheme proposal (around 7:30) for provoking Iraqi anti-air defenses among others was crazy stuff, what an embarrassing but revealing leak of documents.
Did you again forget about democrat CIA chief "Slam Dunk" Tenet. I will also remind you again, the National Security Council advises and assists the President on national security and foreign policies. The National Security Council has access to the same intelligence information as the president. Many of the members of the National Security Council were and still are democrats.
At worst, Bush was a victim of faulty intelligence. Somehow you ignorantly believe that Bush made up the whole WMD accusation and then Bush intentionally lied to the world. Not only was UN intelligence consistent with CIA intelligence, but also consistent with many other foreign countries.
Instead of posting Code Pink propaganda, why not take a minute to learn about how the system works?
At worst, Bush was a victim of faulty intelligence. Somehow you ignorantly believe that Bush made up the whole WMD accusation and then Bush intentionally lied to the world.
Hang on.. is that the same Paranoid from last time? You're not actually implying there where no WMDs after all, are you?
Oh good, Im relieved now. It is you :)
Well, good thing then, that those democrats provided all that great intelligence that saved the world from those hunderds of WMDs no?
Well, good thing then, that those democrats provided all that great intelligence that saved the world from those hunderds of WMDs no?
The intelligence was available to both democrats and republicans. Congress voted to use military force in Iraq. It wasn't just Bush alone, and he did not lie about the intelligence. Even if the intelligence was faulty, Bush was not the source of it.
It would seem that Obama is no different. He is going right along with the Bush plan despite campaigning to the contrary. Not only that he is doing his own "surge" in Afghanistan which is interesting since he was very vocal about the Iraqi "surge" that it would not work.
What I don't understand is why people care so much about Bushes or Obamas, as their job is just to read the teleprompter. Also intriguing is all the fuss between "democrats" and "republicans", that seem to just continue each other's policies. I think it was Gore Vidal who said it best, that the US has just a Property Party with two right wings.
What I don't understand is why people care so much about Bushes or Obamas, as their job is just to read the teleprompter. Also intriguing is all the fuss between "democrats" and "republicans", that seem to just continue each other's policies. I think it was Gore Vidal who said it best, that the US has just a Property Party with two right wings.
Certainly I agree with you on that. I'm an independent, I voted for Bush the first term I'm afraid to say. Bush being a conservative is beside the point, I could care less which side of the "turd" it is, but I hate to see these crooks get away with war crimes and the people covering for them or deflecting attention from their roles in this mess like they're some medieval aristocrats that should be above the laws of common men.
They found 15-20 year inoperable (many empty) shells that used to contain mustard gas that had degraded to the point where it was less lethal than teargas. You call that "wmds?" These where buried and forgotten near the iranian border, they date from the iran iraq war (and guess who supplied them?).
You know where else you can find such shells? All over my country. Belgium. Remnants of the first world war. Better start digging near the Yzer before Osama finds our secret hidden WMD supplies!
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