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SUn/Intel slides have Nehalem performance projections

 
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jokerman



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: SUn/Intel slides have Nehalem performance projections Reply with quote

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TacoBell



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: SUn/Intel slides have Nehalem performance projections Reply with quote

jokerman wrote:
http://at.sun.com/sunnews/events/2008/jan/sun_intel_breakfast/pdf/Sun_Intel_Road%20Show_Austria.pdf

also has AMD Shanghai projections ... Intel expects a pretty decent fight from Shanghai.


In FP it looks relatively competitive but if the Integer performance is even close to what is realized this would be very bad news for Shanghai, with Nehalem having a 40% lead (looks like about 2 for SH versus 2.85ish for Nehalem).
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Wouter Tinus



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working the numbers for Nehalem I get about 164/167 for SPECint/fp_rate_base2006 (assuming two socket configurations, which seems to fit with the relative numbers).

Current top of the line Harpertown is at 121/80.4, while the (now invalidated) 2.5 GHz Barcelona submissions were 102/86.3. It looks like Intel/Sun are expecting a 2.8 GHz Shanghai to come in at about 122/126.

Edit: switched int/fp for Barcelona. Also those are peak numbers, not base.
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GeorgeOu



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a link to here on my blog.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=1025

I ran some numbers of my own and I had to make some adjustments to the numbers since I don't know what Intel's reference point is. The following are the adjusted numbers I came up with.

I estimated 176/163 for Nehalem on SPECint/SPECfp rate base 2006.
I estimate 123/121 for Shanghai 2.8 SPECint/SPECfp rate base 2006.
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JamesG



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The slides are down, anyone got a mirror or can put one up please? Thanks.
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The_Wolf_Who_Cried_Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was the interesting one.

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JamesG



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks wolf, but I was interested specifically in something I saw on the inq, they say the 2 core, 4 core and 8 core are coming "in late" and that's it, is there a date in the slides? Specifically I want to know about the 8 core desktop/enthusiast chips.
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The_Wolf_Who_Cried_Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mocad_tom



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesG wrote:
Thanks wolf, but I was interested specifically in something I saw on the inq, they say the 2 core, 4 core and 8 core are coming "in late" and that's it, is there a date in the slides? Specifically I want to know about the 8 core desktop/enthusiast chips.


Hiroshige Goto says:
Bloomfield/Lynnfield Nehalem-EP (Native Quad-Core) Q3 08
Dunnington (Native Hexa-Core for old FSB) Q3 08
Nehalem-EX Beckton (Native-Eight-Core-Nehalem) H2 09

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2007/1018/kaigai394.htm

Dunnington only for MP-Boards (4 Sockets)
Nehalem-EP is for Single- and Dual-Socket-Configurations.
There is no Beckton planned for DP-Boards or Desktop, big Server-Iron only.
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JamesG



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Wolf_Who_Cried_Boy wrote:
Makes you wonder why companies bother "pulling" leaked documents. Once the horse has bolted as they say...


Hehe, yep. Thanks, but you were right, nothing much else of interest in there and no dates for nehalem, not sure what the inq was talking about. oh well.
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